Salvia divinorum and Coleus blumei


[Statements that the active biochemicals of Salvia divinorum must be absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth because they cannot be absorbed through the stomach, may suggest that they are destroyed by the hydrochloric acid produced by the stomach; if so, it would suffice, to render them absorbable through the gastro-intestinal system, simply to consume them with enough alkali to keep the hydrochloric acid neutralized (which would entail drinking small amount of alkali solution -- such as, of potassium bichloride -- every few minutes for at least an hour). Furthermore, their active chemicals not being water-soluble, they ought to be ingested along with vegetable-oil.]


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"Inducing Lucid/Vivid Dreams with Salvia". https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=20648

"just a little bit of Salvia (20x extract), not enough to trip {N.B. Travelling in a dream is the principal means of taking a psychedelic trip; very much more travel-and-trip-venturing experienceable during dreaming than whatever meagre-&-paltry experience may be possible while awake.} just a pinchful ... . After this little experiment I went to sleep and had the first lucid dream I've had in a long time. I was in a plane flying over a city which was bright and vivid with ... tall skyscrapers. I thought wow that's weird I shouldn't be flying my passport is expired, then it hit me...I must be dreaming. I had a little while exploring this dream world before I woke up. I decided to repeat the experiment the next evening with the same size pinch of ...again another lucid dream. ... so I tried a night without salvia....no lucid dream. Next day, salvia, another lucid dream. Excited I might have stumbled onto a sure method of inducing lucid dreams in myself I told my friend who is an avid lucid dreaming enthusiast. He suggested I take some Choline in addition to Salvia to see if that intensified the dream or prolonged it. This turned out to make the dreams much longer in duration. ... For the past week I've been following this regimen, choline 2 hours before bed and a pinch of salvia right before bed and have had a lucid dream every single night."


"Dream Enhancer? Salvia divinorum". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=20032

"I ... grabbed a pinch of Salvia ... . ... It was easy to sleep again and I had an amusing dream about being in a house with some friends and an instructor was trying to teach us how to perform astral projections. Suddenly, 'somebody' who was not supposed to learn how to do this arrived and my friends astral projections were pretending to be flesh and bone (while the bodies were sleeping upstairs) so this 'somebody' could not find out what was happening. ... Definitely, the events of the night were triggered by Salvia since I do not dream like that ... . ... The colors were awesome, like something I have never experienced while sleeping and the memories are absolutely clear."


"Salvia Divinorum and Conscious Dreams". http://www.shaman-australis.com/~claude/salvia2.html

"Salvia divinorum offers a unique tool for non-experienced conscious dreamers to see, by themselves, what a conscious dream can be like, without the burden of a long work with pre-sleep breathing and concentration exercises. Calea zacatechichi seems to have a similar utility. Both plants challenge researchers involved in sleep and pre-sleep phenomena, like hypnagogic imagery."


"Salvia divinorum - Diviner's Sage". http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=83&z=5

"Buy Salvia divinorum HERE

Family:Lamiaceae(Mint)
Genus:Salvia
Species:Divinorum
Common Names: Diviner’s Sage, ... Magic Mint, Pipiltzintzintli, ... Seer’s Sage, ... . ... In the past some scholars had postulated that the Aztec word, Pipiltzintzintli, was possibly S. Divinorum, however ... It is possible that Pipiltzintzintli may have referred to Ololiuhqui (Turbina Corymbosa) or Toloache (Datura Meteloides). {Most unlikely, inasmuch as the Aztec names for those two entheogens are already certainly known.} ...

The Mazatec use three sacred plants in their healing, divination and diagnosis ceremonies, they believe Lady Salvia to be the weakest entheogen of this trinity; followed by Ololiuhqui, the seeds of the Morning Glory vine (Turbina Corymbosa); and the most powerful of this sacred trinity was Teonanacatl (Psilocybe mexicana). The elder curanderos use Salvia to introduce and train new curanderos in the spirit world and the “way to heaven.” The apprentice is given progressively higher doses until they become familiar and comfortable with its effects; they are then introduced to ... seeds of ... Ololiuhqui; finally, when the apprentice has become familiar with the effects Ololiuhqui, they are introduce to the most powerful sacrament, they are given the “flesh of God”, Teonanacatl. ...

TRADITIONAL PREPARATION: The Mazatec curanderos prepared Salvia leaves in two ways depending on their purpose, either as a quid to be chewed or as an infused tea to be drunk. Recent research has shown that oral ingestion {meaning here, 'stomachic ingestation', not "oral", which is what absorption through the mucous membrane of the mouth, litterally is} is not nearly as effective as quid chewing, because the salvinorin compounds are not water soluble, but they are easily absorbed sublingually {not necessarily "sublingually" -- which would litterally mean "only under the tongue" -- if absorption is possible throughout the mucous membrane, which is not confined to "under the tongue"} through the mucous membrane."


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"Coleus blumei - Painted Nettle". http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=39&z=5

"FAMILY: Lamiaceae (Mint Family)neutralized
GENUS: Coleus
SPECIES: Blumei
COMMON NAMES: Buntblatt, Buntnessel, Coleus Scutellaires, El Ahijado, El Nene, Flame Nettle, Manto de la Virgen, Painted Nettle, Patharcheer. ...

Coleus Blumei first originated in Southeast Asia and the Philippines, but was transplanted in the tropical regions of Mexico and has since become well known amongst the Mazatec Indians for its psychoactive properties. ... During Wasson’s expedition through the Sierra Madre Mazateca region, not only did he discover the Indians ritual use of Salvia Divinorum as a hallucinogen, but he also learned of their use of Coleus Blumei as a potent substitute for Salvia. When Salvia Divinorum, La Hembra (the Woman) was unavailable, the native shaman would use the leaves and flowers of El Ahijado (the Godson) in its place. ...

The Mazatec natives tend to consume El Ahijado in two way, either as a fresh lea chewable quid or as a dried leaf smokable herb. Traditionally, eight to twelve small leaves are freshly picked from the plant, rolled into a quid and chewed, the juices are swallowed and after 15 – 20 minutes the used quid is discarded and exchanged for fresh leaves. ...

Many people report that small doses of El Ahijado are very similar to small doses of Salvia Divinorum, this is certainly a powerful Shamanic traveling plant and needs to be studied more carefully. Similar to many other plants like Salvia Divinorum and Cannabis Sativa, the effects of Coleus Blumei are not usually felt after the first trial, rather it take several attempts and knowledge of the plant to fully feel its inebriating effects."


Golden Guide. https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/golden_guide/g131-140.shtml#COLEUS

"COLEUS (Coleus pumas and C. blumei) is cultivated by the Mazatecs of Oaxaca, Mexico, who reputedly employ the leaves in the some way as they use the leaves of Salvia divinorum ( see p. 137) . Indeed, the Indians recognize the family relationship between these two genera of mints, both of the family Labiatae. They refer to S. divinorum as la hembra ("the female") and to C. pumilus as el macho ("the male"). There are two forms of C. blumei, which they call el niño ("the child") and el ahijado ("the godson"). These two species are native to Asia, where they are valued in folk medicine but apparently have not been used as hallucinogens. No hallucinogenic principle has yet been discovered in the 150 known Coleus species." {Are the Asiatic who are ingesting it as a medicine not taking evough to procure a dream-effect; or, is the dream-effect simply ignored in Asian medical litterature?}


"Dreamer's Sage". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=63960

"my dream, ... if I remember correctly, ... ended much ... with a buildup of noise and a fade to white. ... This and the nausea ... ."


"I'm Convinced It's a Dream Herb". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=80134

"I would describe the taste when I chewed the leaves as tasting like raw mushrooms ... only stronger in taste. ... . ... the small stomach ache I had dissappeared. ... I had another dream where I told a family member something I did not want them to know. I remember thinking why did I do that but then I realised this is just a dream it doesn't matter and I woke up. {FALSE WAKING. Very curious : all my dreams of false awaking (dozens of them over the years) have always been localized in the apartment of current-contemporaneous residence.} I was at the house where I grew up and no longer live. I remember thinking I can't be here then I realised I hadn't woken up I was still dreaming and at that moment I woke up for real."


"Doctor Who?" https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=55258

(Aftermath of rejecting a divine invitation for praeternatural assistance to achieve projection of the astral body.) "I felt like I was going out of my body, ... but I was trembling like crazy. I then felt a big sense or forgiveness, and empathy and bad things that I have done in the past flashed in front of my eyes. ... . ... I had a stomach ache ... . I then got this cold feeling like I felt hot, and I was sweating, but I felt sooo cold. I waited in my bed until it was over. I got a lot of panic attacks, and muscle twitches. {The panic attacks and twitches are probably due to having impiously refused the opportunity for astral projection, which had been praeternaturally proffered.} When I fell asleep, ... The dreams were insane!! {Viz., they were divinely significant.} I woke up ... feeling ... like I have been on a spiritual journey to improve myself".

"Coleus the 'Dreamtogen': Coleus Dreams". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=9547

(Smoking the dried leaf.) "Dream imagery starts to come in and form AROUND you. The 'voices' then have bodies and characters associated with them. ONLY THEN can you actually INTERACT with the 'dream People'. ... The lucid dreams on Coleus are black and white but never the less REALISTIC."


"Completely Unexpected". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=60903

(Smoking the dried leaf : its effect on the waking state.) "I felt like laughing, but I couldn’t ... when I’m about to laugh. On top of that, EVERYTHING had an aura (a glowing color around the object), and everything had a different one. And to my eyes, my skin looked blue and green around the edges of my limbs." {This may be the "jade body" said to be accomplished by long-time Taoist practitioners. Such a contrast between gloriously green glow (praesumably of the perispirit) during waking-state, and sombre "black and white" dreaming state!}


"The Bearer of the Light of Love". https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=68806

(Praeparation by boiling the leaves, drinking the resultant liquid, but not eating the leaves. No nausea nor stomachache.) "I remember ... from my dreams ... Maybe I was on a mountain ... ? ... The night that I experienced left me with an incredibly glowing mood ... afterwards. I'm not sure if it has ever completely faded. Something about this 'trip' brought me so much closer to my own existence. I do not think that it was the trip that changed me. I think that the trip was just a vehicle to bring me to something higher and more complete, and something that ... never really faded, and I don't think it ever will. ... Coleus has always loved me. Always held me. Always cared for me when I needed ... most." {Apparently a plant responding well to being honored and respected. With such powerful and enduring effect, it may be that the reason why more people do not ingest it is that the impious are (by means of vigilance on the part of the spirit-guardian of the plant) mentally diverted from partaking of the eucharistic body of the plant.}


"Did I spell that right? EDIT: Coleus Brumei". [Probably was diverted into a misspelling by the plant-spirits' being annoyed.] https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=5243

(According to this forum, not all varieties are psychedelically active. But it may be that, inasmuch as the writer for this forum are habitual ingesters of DMT, that Coleus and the DMT plants are mutually incompatible, and that anyone abstaining from DMT plants will receive a pronounced from any Coleus plant or at least the species mentioned -- the incompatibility may be due to operating in different planes-of-existence, the DMT plane being both nearly powerless itself and also having a distinct propensity to depower and to nullify the superior divine power of Coleus) "I think that there are certain colored varieties that would be more potent ... . ... Coleus are full of hybrids, variations etc., could be that the original two (Blumei and Pumila) had a particular strong strain. ... . ... the Plants of the Gods book, a sort of psychoactive plants encyclopedia from Hofmann, Schultes etc. Was saying that, in the mesoamerican population, Salvia D. was like the woman, Coleus Pumeli the man, Coleus Blumei the little baby, and all of them psychoactive ... ."


NAMING oF Coleus blumei

"Coleus Species". http://medicinalplants.us/coleus-spp

"The first description of this plant was by Linnaeus (1763), who gave the name Ocimum scutellarioides. Later, Brown (1810) reclassified this species as Plectranthus scutellarioides, and this name was also used by Blume (1826) for another specimen which was similar to the one of Linnaeus. Bentham (1832-1836) considered these two plants as different species and placed them into the genus Coleus, with the names C. blumei and C. scutellarioides. In 1896, Siebert and Voss placed C. blumei, C. scutellarioides, C. atropurpureus, C. bicolor, C. verschaffelti, and C. hybridus as subspecies into the species C. scutellarioides. Therefore, the legitimate name for the plant is Coleus scutellarioides (L.) Bentham."


MEDICINAL USES http://www.stuartxchange.org/Mayana.html

"Plectranthus scutellarioides (L.) R. Br. 
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Scientific names 

Common names 

Coleus blumei Benth 

Dafronaya (Span.) 

Coleus blancoi Benth

Daponaya (Bis.) 

Coleus grandifolius Blanco

Lapunaya (Bis.) 

Coleus scutellarioides (L.) Benth 

Malaina (Tag.) 

Plectranthus scutellarioides (L.) R. Br. 

Saimayu (Sul.) 

Solenostemon scutellarioides

Taponaya (Bis.) 

Plectranthus atropurpureus Benth.

Tapunaya (Bis.) 

 

Butterfly coleus (Engl.)

 

Joseph's coat (Engl.)

 

Painted nettle (Engl.) 

 

Ahijado (Span.)

Mayana is a shared common name of (1) Coleus atropurpureus, badiara, and (2) Coleus blumei. Some compilattions list the two species as synonymous.

Coleus atropurpureus Benth. is a synonym of Plectranthus scutellarioides (L.) R.Br. The Plant List

Quisumbing's compilation lists Coleus blumei (Mayana) as synonym of Plectranthus scutellarioides Blume.

The name "coleus", still widely used by horticulturists and gardeners, is considered a defunct genus. Species have been placed under genus Solenostemon and genus Plectranthus. Wikipedia".

"• In the Philippines, pounded leaves used as a cure for headaches, applied to the temples or nape of the neck. Also used for healing bruises.
• Decoction taken internally for dyspepsia and for wasting away.
• Decoction used as eyedrops for ophthalmia and conjunctivitis.
• Bruises and sprains: Crush or pound 10-12 leaves and apply over the ankles, wrists or affected areas for 30 minutes, three times daily. Use a bandage to hold the poultice in place. ...
• Mild bleeding of wounds: Wash the young leaves; crush and extract the juice. Drop a few drops of the juice directly on the wound. Apply the crushed leaves as poultice. ...
• Reported use in Asian traditional medicine for asthma, angina, bronchitis, epilepsy, insomnia, skin rashes and various digestive problems.

In India, fresh juice of leaf and stem is mixed with the juice of raw Citrus fruits and applied over the skin during scorpion bite. source
In Samoa, used to treat elephantiasis.
• In
Southeast Asia, used to treat dysentery "



"In India, tubers of some Coleus species, namely, C. tuberosus and C. forskohlii, are eaten as vegetables and pickles, leaves of other Coleus species (e.g. C. amboinicus) are used as spices. ...

Coleus forskohlii Briq. is also known under the name Coleus barbatus Briq., which is the legitimate name. The plant originated from the Indian subcontinent... . It is a perennial aromatic plant ... . The root system forms tubers, which are eaten as a vegetable in India. ...

(FORSKOLIN) The compound is able to lower hypertension ... , and it also has a positive ... effect on the heart muscle. Therefore, it may be used to treat congestive heart failure. Moreover, forskolin has been studied as a bronchodilator in asthmatics and for lowering intraocular pressure, thus treating glaucoma. It also acts as an anti-inflammatory drug ... ."


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